as ronald reagan said people can vote with their feet. >> jon: ultimate the federal government-- poor people, obviously their suz, the soles are not as quick, have trouble trouble with mobility in some sparse. you're saying the federal government should not be involved in education at all. >> no, the federal government should not be involved in education. >> jon: at all. >> or the constitution should be amended to reflect the consensus that it should. but when the federal government exceeds the constitution and it's the supreme law of the land, how can we trust the federal government to do anything? the federal government might even spy on the country tea chief spy because they think he's having an affair, even though that's against the law they've sworn to uphold. >> jon: if your argument is we can't trust the federal government to do anything how can we trust it to do anything, like fight wars or what it says in constitution to do. >> the constitution was created to give us checks and balances. the states were a check on the federal government. i know you're not going to want to hea